1 00:00:01,281 --> 00:00:03,426 - You can't disappear for 10 years, 2 00:00:03,450 --> 00:00:07,096 then show up and start dragging up a bunch of shit from when we were kids! 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,098 If you see me around the building, act like you don't know me 4 00:00:09,122 --> 00:00:10,808 - because you don't. - Happily. 5 00:00:10,832 --> 00:00:12,769 They're cleaning out Tim Kono's apartment tomorrow, 6 00:00:12,793 --> 00:00:15,939 so we're gonna look around for clues before everything's gone. 7 00:00:15,963 --> 00:00:18,483 - I see you're a musician. - Oh, good eye. 8 00:00:18,507 --> 00:00:21,653 Is that your bassoon I hear playing through the courtyard every night? 9 00:00:21,677 --> 00:00:24,280 It's lovely. I think of it as the sound of the Arconia. 10 00:00:24,304 --> 00:00:26,824 Oh, that's really sweet. 11 00:00:26,848 --> 00:00:28,117 Well, hello there, Sting! 12 00:00:28,141 --> 00:00:30,745 Winnie, don't stand so close to Sting. 13 00:00:30,769 --> 00:00:34,165 She's just on edge after that upsetting death the other night. 14 00:00:34,189 --> 00:00:36,376 Are you suggesting I had something to do with that? 15 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,378 - No, no, no, no. I... - Please, your dog. 16 00:00:38,402 --> 00:00:41,381 Control him! I don't like dogs. 17 00:00:41,405 --> 00:00:42,383 Oh... 18 00:00:46,577 --> 00:00:48,888 Winnie? 19 00:00:48,912 --> 00:00:51,290 Who would do this to you? 20 00:01:01,091 --> 00:01:03,987 Testing, testing. 21 00:01:06,889 --> 00:01:08,849 We good? 22 00:01:38,754 --> 00:01:41,882 I don't need to hear it right now. 23 00:01:46,094 --> 00:01:49,282 Who doesn't love a second chance? 24 00:01:49,306 --> 00:01:50,783 Another shot at righting 25 00:01:50,807 --> 00:01:53,435 some painful mistake that's haunted you? 26 00:01:54,353 --> 00:01:56,831 Or at healing the wounds you may have inflicted. 27 00:01:56,855 --> 00:01:58,791 Will? WILL: Yeah. 28 00:01:58,815 --> 00:02:00,919 I got here as fast as I could. Where's Winnie? 29 00:02:00,943 --> 00:02:03,087 - Get in, get in. - Just in there. Hurry! Go! 30 00:02:03,111 --> 00:02:04,505 Just run! WILL: Calm down. Relax! Relax! 31 00:02:04,529 --> 00:02:07,634 But a second chance always comes with risk. 32 00:02:07,658 --> 00:02:10,011 What the fuck is GM? 33 00:02:10,035 --> 00:02:12,538 You might make the same mistake again. 34 00:02:13,664 --> 00:02:16,667 Or you might make a worse one. 35 00:03:17,269 --> 00:03:19,706 Oliver? OLIVER: I'm in here! 36 00:03:19,730 --> 00:03:22,458 Hey, what happened? Are you okay? 37 00:03:22,482 --> 00:03:25,003 - The killer poisoned my dog. - What? 38 00:03:25,027 --> 00:03:27,380 My son has her. He's a vet. 39 00:03:27,404 --> 00:03:29,007 She recovered, thank God, 40 00:03:29,031 --> 00:03:32,177 but clearly, we are getting close if they're sending a message to the leader. 41 00:03:32,201 --> 00:03:33,845 Is the leader you? 42 00:03:33,869 --> 00:03:36,097 Did they poison your dog? 43 00:03:36,121 --> 00:03:37,321 They left this. 44 00:03:40,083 --> 00:03:42,812 "End the podcast or I end you." 45 00:03:42,836 --> 00:03:44,731 What if Winnie had died? 46 00:03:44,755 --> 00:03:46,191 It would be on me again. 47 00:03:46,215 --> 00:03:47,859 And my stupid 48 00:03:47,883 --> 00:03:50,361 goddamn visionary ambitions. 49 00:03:50,385 --> 00:03:53,573 Okay, whoever poisoned Winnie clearly killed Tim, 50 00:03:53,597 --> 00:03:55,283 so who did this? Gather 'round. 51 00:03:55,307 --> 00:03:56,910 Look, I'm gonna record this. 52 00:03:56,934 --> 00:03:58,578 So... 53 00:03:58,602 --> 00:04:01,647 I know this seems impossible, it's bananas, but... 54 00:04:02,189 --> 00:04:05,877 I think there's a very strong chance that the person who poisoned Winnie 55 00:04:05,901 --> 00:04:08,922 was, and-and this gives me no pleasure 56 00:04:08,946 --> 00:04:11,007 in saying this 57 00:04:11,031 --> 00:04:12,908 musical superstar Sting. 58 00:04:14,743 --> 00:04:16,787 The guy from U2? 59 00:04:17,329 --> 00:04:18,932 - Are you kidding me? - Sting. 60 00:04:18,956 --> 00:04:21,768 - The Police? Roxanne? Every Breath You Take, 61 00:04:21,792 --> 00:04:24,020 only one of the biggest love songs of all time? 62 00:04:24,044 --> 00:04:25,438 Who educated you? 63 00:04:25,462 --> 00:04:27,732 - Oh, now I know. - He did Sledgehammer. 64 00:04:27,756 --> 00:04:29,442 - Ah! Peter Gabriel! - That's Peter Gabriel! 65 00:04:29,466 --> 00:04:32,362 Guys, I know who Sting is! 66 00:04:32,386 --> 00:04:35,198 And by the way, Every Breath You Take is no love song. 67 00:04:35,222 --> 00:04:37,909 It's about a jealous stalker and surveillance, 68 00:04:37,933 --> 00:04:40,561 and it actually seems like it was written by a 69 00:04:41,270 --> 00:04:43,248 - killer. - Oliver, 70 00:04:43,272 --> 00:04:45,959 look, I know you would love to have a celebrity killer, 71 00:04:45,983 --> 00:04:48,378 but Sting did not murder Tim Kono. 72 00:04:48,402 --> 00:04:50,713 Oh my God. BOTH: What? 73 00:04:50,737 --> 00:04:53,341 "Sting loses millions. 74 00:04:53,365 --> 00:04:56,052 "Funds mismanaged by his former investment firm 75 00:04:56,076 --> 00:04:58,078 Wright & Ogilvy." 76 00:04:59,288 --> 00:05:02,141 That's Tim's old firm. 77 00:05:02,165 --> 00:05:04,269 - Wait a minute, wait a minute. - Didn't dead cat guy 78 00:05:04,293 --> 00:05:06,771 say that Tim Kono got fired because he lost 79 00:05:06,795 --> 00:05:08,773 some big client's money? 80 00:05:08,797 --> 00:05:11,508 Tim Kono lost Sting's money. 81 00:05:12,134 --> 00:05:13,736 It's always about the money! 82 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,596 This is exactly like Die Hard! 83 00:05:16,179 --> 00:05:18,408 Could it be this simple though? 84 00:05:18,432 --> 00:05:21,995 Tim just got murdered by some pissed-off client? 85 00:05:22,019 --> 00:05:23,371 Oh boy! 86 00:05:23,395 --> 00:05:25,915 Sting is on Ursula's list of people who were in the building 87 00:05:25,939 --> 00:05:27,333 the night of Tim's murder, 88 00:05:27,357 --> 00:05:30,503 and on her list of people who stayed during the fire alarm. 89 00:05:30,527 --> 00:05:32,029 How did you miss that? 90 00:05:32,487 --> 00:05:33,798 Because it was Sting! 91 00:05:33,822 --> 00:05:37,135 I figured he stayed behind to write some fucking masterpiece. 92 00:05:37,159 --> 00:05:40,430 Guys, this is actually something. 93 00:05:40,454 --> 00:05:41,747 Okay, and if it is... 94 00:05:42,664 --> 00:05:46,060 We have hit the mother lode. 95 00:05:46,084 --> 00:05:49,880 Rock icon Sting is a dog-poisoning murderer. 96 00:05:50,380 --> 00:05:52,591 He's like the next OJ. 97 00:05:53,050 --> 00:05:55,778 A hot Buddhist OJ. 98 00:05:55,802 --> 00:05:58,907 I will say this is our strongest suspect yet, next to tie-dye guy. 99 00:05:58,931 --> 00:06:01,618 - Enough with tie-dye guy! - We cannot forget about tie-dye guy! 100 00:06:01,642 --> 00:06:04,162 But if we're gonna go down this road, we need some advice. 101 00:06:04,186 --> 00:06:06,480 With someone this big, you only get one shot. 102 00:06:07,022 --> 00:06:08,541 We need Cinda Canning. 103 00:06:08,565 --> 00:06:09,959 Uh, well, 104 00:06:09,983 --> 00:06:12,045 sure. I mean, who wouldn't want 105 00:06:12,069 --> 00:06:15,590 the Queen of Murder Podcasts, but how? 106 00:06:15,614 --> 00:06:18,384 Well, I could work my connections. I do know that we go 107 00:06:18,408 --> 00:06:20,369 to the same cupcake store. 108 00:06:21,036 --> 00:06:23,097 I think I can do better than that. 109 00:06:24,165 --> 00:06:25,600 Try that again. 110 00:06:25,624 --> 00:06:27,977 I think I can do better than that. 111 00:06:28,001 --> 00:06:30,772 Okay, maybe I can cut these two together and 112 00:06:30,796 --> 00:06:32,398 then redo it. 113 00:06:36,468 --> 00:06:38,988 - Charles, hi. - Hey, Arnav, how's it going? 114 00:06:39,012 --> 00:06:42,808 - Good. Nice to see you. It's funny. - Uh, Anaya was just FaceTiming with Lucy. 115 00:06:43,308 --> 00:06:44,994 She asked about you. 116 00:06:45,018 --> 00:06:46,746 Oh. Th-that's nice. 117 00:06:46,770 --> 00:06:50,124 So, anyway, so I have this faint memory 118 00:06:50,148 --> 00:06:52,835 that you're parent friends with Cinda Canning? 119 00:06:52,859 --> 00:06:55,463 Something about circus arts class Tuesday morning? 120 00:06:55,487 --> 00:06:57,715 Uh, yeah. That's exactly what it is. 121 00:06:57,739 --> 00:07:00,158 Well, you know, I'm working on this podcast... 122 00:07:00,868 --> 00:07:02,637 I mean, we're not that close. 123 00:07:02,661 --> 00:07:04,806 You know, I don't want to put you in a weird position, 124 00:07:04,830 --> 00:07:07,684 but this podcast is the first thing that's 125 00:07:07,708 --> 00:07:11,295 really got my juices flowing in a long time. 126 00:07:12,421 --> 00:07:15,024 - Yeah. Sure. - Hey. Really? 127 00:07:15,048 --> 00:07:17,593 I'm sure she'd be happy to help the next generation. 128 00:07:17,968 --> 00:07:20,804 Or anyone looking to learn. 129 00:07:21,930 --> 00:07:22,950 Thank you. 130 00:07:25,017 --> 00:07:26,828 So, um... 131 00:07:26,852 --> 00:07:28,645 Lucy seems happy? 132 00:07:29,396 --> 00:07:30,814 She does. 133 00:07:31,523 --> 00:07:33,209 That's good. 134 00:07:33,233 --> 00:07:34,735 Thanks again. 135 00:07:40,991 --> 00:07:43,386 - I can't believe you got us this meeting. - Yeah. 136 00:07:43,410 --> 00:07:45,763 Well, I did. And I think I should run it, too, 137 00:07:45,787 --> 00:07:48,308 because we need this one thing to run smoothly, okay? 138 00:07:48,332 --> 00:07:50,351 - Okay. Sure. - Alright. If you think that's smart. 139 00:07:50,375 --> 00:07:52,437 And if we go in there yelling, "Sting is a killer,". 140 00:07:52,461 --> 00:07:54,586 Cinda's gonna think we're lunatics. 141 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,381 Oh. Hi. 142 00:07:57,758 --> 00:08:00,385 - H-hi. I mean, hi. - I said, I said, hi. Ha! 143 00:08:03,639 --> 00:08:06,701 Hi. We met on another elevator. 144 00:08:06,725 --> 00:08:08,953 Hello. JAN: Right. 145 00:08:08,977 --> 00:08:10,830 You two do this a lot? 146 00:08:10,854 --> 00:08:13,857 - Oh, just on the weekends. 147 00:08:15,150 --> 00:08:16,753 Well, you're dolled up. 148 00:08:16,777 --> 00:08:19,404 Man only dresses like that when he's off to see a woman. 149 00:08:19,821 --> 00:08:22,217 Well, uh, yeah. 150 00:08:22,241 --> 00:08:23,843 Yeah, I-I guess I am. 151 00:08:23,867 --> 00:08:26,095 For a business meeting. 152 00:08:26,119 --> 00:08:28,598 Yes. Uh, that's correct. 153 00:08:28,622 --> 00:08:31,166 And I can see you're going to be a 154 00:08:31,708 --> 00:08:33,937 a sexy bassoonist. 155 00:08:33,961 --> 00:08:36,773 Based on your shirt only! Uh, not based 156 00:08:36,797 --> 00:08:39,800 I'm gonna stop you before you accidentally say I'm not sexy. 157 00:08:40,759 --> 00:08:42,862 Please, stop me. 158 00:08:42,886 --> 00:08:45,055 Someone stop me. 159 00:08:49,059 --> 00:08:52,413 - Well, it was nice seeing you again. - You, too. 160 00:08:52,437 --> 00:08:54,815 Hope to hear your playing tonight like always? 161 00:08:56,024 --> 00:08:58,026 You'll hear me bassooner or later. 162 00:09:01,071 --> 00:09:03,883 Well, someone was a little flirty. 163 00:09:03,907 --> 00:09:05,802 It was a lot of bassoon jokes, 164 00:09:05,826 --> 00:09:08,429 - but she's cute. You should ask her out. - Mm-hmm. 165 00:09:08,453 --> 00:09:11,224 Oh. Nah, I'm too set in my ways. 166 00:09:11,248 --> 00:09:13,601 Plus someone in the building, if it doesn't work out... 167 00:09:13,625 --> 00:09:15,979 Now's not a good time, Right. 168 00:09:16,003 --> 00:09:18,022 You should wait. Plenty of time. 169 00:09:18,046 --> 00:09:20,549 You know, 70 is the new 40. 170 00:09:21,758 --> 00:09:24,011 I want you to be less mean. 171 00:09:25,888 --> 00:09:27,574 I know you do. 172 00:09:47,409 --> 00:09:48,660 Hello! 173 00:09:49,536 --> 00:09:51,890 ALL Hello! Hi! Hi! 174 00:09:51,914 --> 00:09:54,392 Hi... Whoa! Oh my God! 175 00:09:54,416 --> 00:09:56,686 - Hello, how are you? - Thank you so much for taking the time. 176 00:09:56,710 --> 00:10:00,315 - We're huge fans. - Oh, please. Go on. 177 00:10:01,424 --> 00:10:03,383 Really, you're the reason I care about murder. 178 00:10:03,592 --> 00:10:05,695 - And you're the reason we all met! - It's true. 179 00:10:05,719 --> 00:10:08,489 And the lengths that you have gone to while undercover. 180 00:10:08,513 --> 00:10:12,410 The time you were buried in raw sewage for eight hours? 181 00:10:12,434 --> 00:10:15,205 You know what it feels like to be buried up to your chest in sewage? 182 00:10:15,229 --> 00:10:16,429 What? 183 00:10:16,939 --> 00:10:18,291 Like a Peabody! 184 00:10:20,359 --> 00:10:21,961 Oh, that-that's clever. 185 00:10:21,985 --> 00:10:25,239 - Cinda won the Peabody in 2018, ha. - And again in 2020. 186 00:10:26,114 --> 00:10:28,510 Yes. OLIVER: Ah. Cinda, 187 00:10:28,534 --> 00:10:29,761 as I know you know, I'm a director, 188 00:10:29,785 --> 00:10:31,262 so I can't help... Sorry to interrupt. 189 00:10:31,286 --> 00:10:32,847 The call is in, Cinda. Line two. 190 00:10:32,871 --> 00:10:34,206 Thank you, Cindy. 191 00:10:35,332 --> 00:10:38,168 - There are three of them. - It's a value pack. 192 00:10:41,046 --> 00:10:43,274 I'm so sorry to have to take this. It's just, 193 00:10:43,298 --> 00:10:45,068 uh, well, it's silly really. We just... 194 00:10:45,092 --> 00:10:46,986 We may or may not be 195 00:10:47,010 --> 00:10:49,614 about to get bought for $30 million. 196 00:10:49,638 --> 00:10:50,907 - What? - Whoa. 197 00:10:50,931 --> 00:10:53,141 - Take it. - Hello! 198 00:10:53,934 --> 00:10:55,870 What will it mean to get "bought"? 199 00:10:55,894 --> 00:10:58,081 She won't stop making podcasts, will she? 200 00:10:58,105 --> 00:10:59,958 Uh, what they're buying is her. 201 00:10:59,982 --> 00:11:02,651 Oh. Of course. CHARLES: Ah 202 00:11:03,443 --> 00:11:05,004 So, you want 203 00:11:05,028 --> 00:11:06,589 to make a podcast. 204 00:11:06,613 --> 00:11:09,509 I usually steer aspiring podcasters 205 00:11:09,533 --> 00:11:12,345 to a course at SUNY Oneonta. 206 00:11:12,369 --> 00:11:14,639 It's taught by a former assistant of mine... 207 00:11:14,663 --> 00:11:17,267 Well, well, well, we're not complete novices. In fact, 208 00:11:17,291 --> 00:11:19,644 we are already working on 209 00:11:19,668 --> 00:11:22,856 a murder podcast, and we've already come across something 210 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,024 - really huge. - Wait, wait, just go back. 211 00:11:25,048 --> 00:11:27,735 Did you, uh, you know the, uh, 30 million? 212 00:11:27,759 --> 00:11:29,070 So glad you asked that. 213 00:11:29,094 --> 00:11:32,490 Uh, yes. We have been acquired. 214 00:11:32,514 --> 00:11:34,284 Big day. CHARLES: Whoa... 215 00:11:34,308 --> 00:11:36,828 So, you were on to something huge. 216 00:11:36,852 --> 00:11:39,581 - It involves a major celebrity. - Whom we cannot divulge. 217 00:11:39,605 --> 00:11:42,083 Suffice it to say, he'll be watching you. 218 00:11:42,107 --> 00:11:45,086 - I don't get the reference, I'm sorry. He thinks 219 00:11:45,110 --> 00:11:46,945 every little thing you do is magic. 220 00:11:48,488 --> 00:11:49,865 Sting. 221 00:11:50,616 --> 00:11:52,552 And he poisoned my dog. Sir Sting. 222 00:11:52,576 --> 00:11:56,139 - Sting! - From The Police, ironically. 223 00:11:56,163 --> 00:11:57,308 I know it sounds crazy. 224 00:11:57,332 --> 00:12:00,476 I'm sorry. Did you say he-he poisoned your dog? 225 00:12:00,500 --> 00:12:02,794 Well, it was a message to the leader. 226 00:12:04,254 --> 00:12:07,090 Poppy, give me a tagline for a show where Sting is the killer. 227 00:12:07,841 --> 00:12:09,611 - We should've suspected 228 00:12:09,635 --> 00:12:11,738 when we entered the hornet's nest 229 00:12:11,762 --> 00:12:14,115 we wouldn't escape without... 230 00:12:14,139 --> 00:12:15,242 a sting. 231 00:12:15,266 --> 00:12:16,701 Ooh. 232 00:12:16,725 --> 00:12:18,578 She's really got the voice down, doesn't she? 233 00:12:18,602 --> 00:12:20,145 And the writing will come! 234 00:12:21,355 --> 00:12:23,106 So, you were saying... 235 00:12:23,523 --> 00:12:27,003 Well, you know, we need your advice on how to get Sting to sit down with us. 236 00:12:27,027 --> 00:12:29,279 Right. How do we get in? 237 00:12:30,155 --> 00:12:32,258 Okay, well, with a public person, 238 00:12:32,282 --> 00:12:35,762 the key is to enter in a way that disarms them. 239 00:12:35,786 --> 00:12:37,514 For example, with OK, 240 00:12:37,538 --> 00:12:39,933 I was able to get the mayor's confession 241 00:12:39,957 --> 00:12:43,085 by showing up at his house with a fully cooked turkey. 242 00:12:43,460 --> 00:12:45,772 - Of course. - A turkey. 243 00:12:45,796 --> 00:12:48,549 Who turns someone away who has cooked them a 19-pound turkey? 244 00:12:48,966 --> 00:12:51,402 - We bring Sting a turkey? Well, I mean, 245 00:12:51,426 --> 00:12:54,447 find your version of turkey. Oh, yes, yes, yes. 246 00:12:54,471 --> 00:12:57,492 - Of course. That's so helpful. - We just don't wanna make a mess of this. 247 00:12:57,516 --> 00:12:59,977 Ah-ha! Lean in for the nugget, folks. 248 00:13:02,104 --> 00:13:03,647 Are you ready for the nugget? 249 00:13:05,023 --> 00:13:06,960 Embrace the mess. 250 00:13:06,984 --> 00:13:08,569 That's where the good stuff lives. 251 00:13:09,319 --> 00:13:11,589 - I love you so much. 252 00:13:13,782 --> 00:13:16,451 Embrace the mess. 253 00:13:17,369 --> 00:13:19,430 That's beautiful. 254 00:13:32,593 --> 00:13:35,196 What? You think I can't do it? 255 00:13:35,220 --> 00:13:36,656 Did you not see what I did today? 256 00:15:33,547 --> 00:15:36,484 - Hate when people say hhhummus. 257 00:15:36,508 --> 00:15:38,820 It's hummus. You just relax it. 258 00:15:38,844 --> 00:15:41,573 So you, like, never eat an actual meal. 259 00:15:41,597 --> 00:15:44,367 - Dips are an actual meal. - I keep telling you this. 260 00:15:44,391 --> 00:15:47,161 And no dish washing. It's all containers and fingers. 261 00:15:47,185 --> 00:15:48,687 Gross. 262 00:15:53,859 --> 00:15:55,044 Fuck off. 263 00:16:02,534 --> 00:16:04,721 We're here to brainstorm on what our turkey should be. 264 00:16:04,745 --> 00:16:06,747 What do we bring Sting? 265 00:16:07,831 --> 00:16:09,434 I actually have plans. 266 00:16:09,458 --> 00:16:11,352 Are you wearing cologne? 267 00:16:11,376 --> 00:16:13,188 Wait, are you going on a date? 268 00:16:13,212 --> 00:16:15,940 Did you ask out sexy bassoonist? 269 00:16:15,964 --> 00:16:17,775 Really?! 270 00:16:17,799 --> 00:16:19,402 This is so cool! 271 00:16:19,426 --> 00:16:22,113 What are the plans? I feel like I need to approve them. 272 00:16:22,137 --> 00:16:25,575 Excuse me. I have been dating decades longer than you've been alive, 273 00:16:25,599 --> 00:16:28,185 and I'm especially expert at first dates. 274 00:16:30,562 --> 00:16:33,750 Because that's what I mostly have. 275 00:16:33,774 --> 00:16:35,335 Oh, bubbeleh. 276 00:16:35,359 --> 00:16:36,628 What's wrong? 277 00:16:36,652 --> 00:16:38,777 Give the weight to the young people. We can bear it. 278 00:16:39,071 --> 00:16:42,258 I just... I just find dating exhausting. I think, 279 00:16:42,282 --> 00:16:44,928 what do you share? What do you not share? 280 00:16:44,952 --> 00:16:48,556 And if it works out, scary. If it doesn't work out, scary. 281 00:16:48,580 --> 00:16:50,725 After every date, I just want to go home 282 00:16:50,749 --> 00:16:53,603 and plant my face in a pillow and never go out again. 283 00:16:53,627 --> 00:16:55,897 - Oh... Jesus. - Okay. Wow. 284 00:16:55,921 --> 00:16:59,734 You need to relax, okay? Just have fun. Laugh. Flirt. 285 00:16:59,758 --> 00:17:02,111 Isn't it insulting to flirt now? 286 00:17:02,135 --> 00:17:03,446 Well, who the hell knows? 287 00:17:03,470 --> 00:17:07,116 Suddenly, it's rude to tell a secretary she looks pretty in a pair of slacks. 288 00:17:07,140 --> 00:17:09,518 No. To that whole sentence. 289 00:17:10,269 --> 00:17:11,788 Compliment her purse. 290 00:17:11,812 --> 00:17:13,957 If it isn't on their body, you can like it. 291 00:17:13,981 --> 00:17:17,317 No. Again, to every word that's coming out of your mouth. 292 00:17:17,859 --> 00:17:18,963 Listen, 293 00:17:18,987 --> 00:17:21,214 I'm really glad you're doing this. 294 00:17:21,238 --> 00:17:24,032 Being alone in life is making you a little weird. 295 00:17:24,575 --> 00:17:25,844 Thank you? 296 00:17:25,868 --> 00:17:27,512 Just try not to nosebleed all over her. 297 00:17:27,536 --> 00:17:29,413 That would be bad. 298 00:17:30,497 --> 00:17:33,935 Okay, can I please have my hair guy come do you? 299 00:17:33,959 --> 00:17:35,937 Trim the ear lobes at least. They're 300 00:17:46,722 --> 00:17:49,367 So, I kinda had two childhoods. 301 00:17:49,391 --> 00:17:52,185 One where I was a happy only child with married parents, 302 00:17:52,853 --> 00:17:54,372 and a second one 303 00:17:54,396 --> 00:17:57,333 where I had an absent father and a new half-sister, 304 00:17:57,357 --> 00:18:00,420 who somehow could do no wrong. 305 00:18:00,444 --> 00:18:02,547 Who stole both my dad and the flute, 306 00:18:02,571 --> 00:18:05,341 leaving me the bassoon, my second choice. 307 00:18:05,365 --> 00:18:07,844 So, you and the bassoon were clearly meant to be. 308 00:18:07,868 --> 00:18:11,055 Is your sister first chair of anything? 309 00:18:12,081 --> 00:18:14,082 I can't believe I told you all that. 310 00:18:16,293 --> 00:18:19,338 I think your body language makes me feel very comfortable. 311 00:18:19,713 --> 00:18:22,233 Ha. Ha... 312 00:18:22,257 --> 00:18:24,319 Wha-what about it? 313 00:18:24,343 --> 00:18:27,363 I took a class on non-verbal communication, 314 00:18:27,387 --> 00:18:30,825 and people who keep their hands up uncrossed on the table, like you were... 315 00:18:30,849 --> 00:18:34,353 - Mm-hmm. - Are considered more trustworthy. 316 00:18:35,187 --> 00:18:37,147 No one trusts a person who clasps their hands. 317 00:18:38,398 --> 00:18:39,792 Well, yeah. I get that. 318 00:18:39,816 --> 00:18:42,295 Palms up. Very comforting. 319 00:18:42,319 --> 00:18:44,130 Oh yeah. Well, that's, uh, 320 00:18:44,154 --> 00:18:45,882 the Last Supper pose. 321 00:18:45,906 --> 00:18:47,926 No one more comforting than Jesus. 322 00:18:47,950 --> 00:18:49,677 But, you wouldn't wanna date Jesus 323 00:18:49,701 --> 00:18:51,763 because you'd just be worshiping him all the time. 324 00:18:54,831 --> 00:18:56,542 So, um 325 00:18:57,376 --> 00:18:58,728 - tell me more. - Um... 326 00:19:00,170 --> 00:19:03,775 The being second thing for me is kind of a theme. 327 00:19:03,799 --> 00:19:07,278 So, the last guy I was dating never put me first. 328 00:19:07,302 --> 00:19:09,364 I mean, he wouldn't let me order food first. 329 00:19:09,388 --> 00:19:12,450 If we both had to pee, he'd pee first. I mean, whatever. 330 00:19:12,474 --> 00:19:14,202 My therapist says 331 00:19:14,226 --> 00:19:16,037 we're all driven to recreate 332 00:19:16,061 --> 00:19:18,081 the dynamic of our first wound, 333 00:19:18,105 --> 00:19:20,107 so we can change the ending. 334 00:19:21,233 --> 00:19:23,169 Woof! That was a lot. 335 00:19:24,653 --> 00:19:26,405 Your turn. 336 00:19:27,489 --> 00:19:29,175 My turn for what? 337 00:19:29,199 --> 00:19:31,469 Well, how did your parents wound you? 338 00:19:31,493 --> 00:19:32,720 Oh! 339 00:19:32,744 --> 00:19:35,122 Tell me about your last relationship. 340 00:19:35,831 --> 00:19:38,351 Oh yeah... 341 00:19:38,375 --> 00:19:40,645 Well, let's just see here. 342 00:19:40,669 --> 00:19:41,869 Um... 343 00:19:42,379 --> 00:19:44,256 First, um... 344 00:19:45,382 --> 00:19:47,384 My parents were great. Yeah. 345 00:19:48,635 --> 00:19:50,905 And my, uh, last girlfriend, 346 00:19:50,929 --> 00:19:52,866 uh, was 347 00:19:52,890 --> 00:19:55,118 perfectly nice, 348 00:19:55,142 --> 00:19:57,144 and, uh, ended well. 349 00:19:59,980 --> 00:20:01,648 How's your cheese? 350 00:20:02,733 --> 00:20:04,711 You like the cheese? 351 00:20:04,735 --> 00:20:06,713 Oh, you know what? I love 352 00:20:06,737 --> 00:20:08,906 that purse. It is so unusual. 353 00:20:10,616 --> 00:20:14,387 You know, the sharing of stories is kind of transactional. 354 00:20:14,411 --> 00:20:16,973 When someone gives you a story, 355 00:20:16,997 --> 00:20:20,518 you owe them one of equal or greater value in return. 356 00:20:20,542 --> 00:20:23,605 Oh, so it's my turn to tell you my red flags? 357 00:20:25,172 --> 00:20:28,067 Uh, but I'm not keeping any big secret 358 00:20:28,091 --> 00:20:31,404 or anything like that. It's just not everyone has a ton of baggage. 359 00:20:31,428 --> 00:20:34,741 Not that you have, uh, any more baggage than anyone else! 360 00:20:34,765 --> 00:20:37,702 You have the exact right amount of baggage. 361 00:20:37,726 --> 00:20:40,997 - How we doing? Another round? - I think I'm good. 362 00:20:41,021 --> 00:20:42,999 Yeah! Oh. 363 00:20:43,023 --> 00:20:44,918 Sometimes, a second chance 364 00:20:44,942 --> 00:20:47,545 is just another chance to get it wrong. 365 00:20:50,448 --> 00:20:52,383 And blowing it twice 366 00:20:52,407 --> 00:20:55,911 can cause you to make some weird choices. 367 00:21:01,166 --> 00:21:04,312 - We're just going with the turkey. - What? 368 00:21:04,336 --> 00:21:06,439 - Sorry to wake you. - The bird's two hours in, 369 00:21:06,463 --> 00:21:08,942 and my oven conked out, so I'm gonna need yours. 370 00:21:08,966 --> 00:21:12,362 'Cause even a killer does not deserve botulism. 371 00:21:12,386 --> 00:21:16,157 Oh my God. I forgot your big date. Is-is she in there? 372 00:21:16,181 --> 00:21:17,742 No, no. I'm alone. 373 00:21:17,766 --> 00:21:19,369 Oh. Mm, sorry. 374 00:21:19,393 --> 00:21:21,996 - Do you want me to leave? - No! I want to solve this murder, 375 00:21:22,020 --> 00:21:24,541 - so catch me up. - Alright. Sting 376 00:21:24,565 --> 00:21:26,209 is on the run. 377 00:21:26,233 --> 00:21:28,711 I heard from Ursula he has moved 378 00:21:28,735 --> 00:21:31,172 his Rainforest Tour up, and is leaving in two days. 379 00:21:31,196 --> 00:21:32,924 Suspicious? 380 00:21:32,948 --> 00:21:35,760 Also, he's renovating his apartment when he's gone 381 00:21:35,784 --> 00:21:38,805 because, apparently, he wants a "fresh start." 382 00:21:38,829 --> 00:21:40,723 I bet he does, right? 383 00:21:40,747 --> 00:21:44,185 Anyway, Mabel has plans in the afternoon, so that only leaves tomorrow morning. 384 00:21:44,209 --> 00:21:46,813 And, you know, at 20 minutes a pound... 385 00:21:46,837 --> 00:21:50,275 So, we're gonna bring Sting a morning turkey? 386 00:21:50,299 --> 00:21:52,277 Ye... I know, it's weird, 387 00:21:52,301 --> 00:21:54,511 but I figure if we also brought coffee... 388 00:21:55,262 --> 00:21:56,573 Yeah, listen. 389 00:21:56,597 --> 00:21:57,782 I know this is nuts... No, no, no. 390 00:21:57,806 --> 00:22:00,577 That's exactly why it'll work. Because it's surprising. 391 00:22:00,601 --> 00:22:03,246 No one ever brings anyone a turkey with bad intentions! 392 00:22:03,270 --> 00:22:05,957 Exactly! Wow. 393 00:22:05,981 --> 00:22:07,792 I am amazed. I didn't think you'd be on board with this. 394 00:22:07,816 --> 00:22:10,587 I'm so on board with this. 395 00:22:10,611 --> 00:22:12,297 Because this is how I'm gonna fill 396 00:22:12,321 --> 00:22:14,090 the rest of my days with hobbies, 397 00:22:14,114 --> 00:22:16,176 and my hobby is solving murders. 398 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,886 I'm gonna go on vacation 399 00:22:17,910 --> 00:22:21,639 with murders, and one day, murders are gonna sit by my bed 400 00:22:21,663 --> 00:22:25,167 and feed me broth because I'm losing my swallow reflex. 401 00:22:27,711 --> 00:22:30,481 We're embracing the mess, right? 402 00:22:30,505 --> 00:22:33,425 So, gimme that baster, and let's make a mess. 403 00:22:43,644 --> 00:22:46,146 Oh my God. Look at this. 404 00:22:47,397 --> 00:22:48,649 Okay. 405 00:22:52,527 --> 00:22:54,029 - Testing. - It's on, it's on. 406 00:22:57,032 --> 00:22:59,243 - Turkey delivery! - I hope you're hungry! 407 00:23:00,035 --> 00:23:02,096 Anita, are we expecting a turkey? 408 00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:04,432 I hope not! You certainly don't need a second one! 409 00:23:05,999 --> 00:23:08,019 I'm not seeing a turkey on your schedule, sir. 410 00:23:08,043 --> 00:23:10,355 So, we live in the building, and we thought 411 00:23:10,379 --> 00:23:12,941 it would be a good community-builder 412 00:23:12,965 --> 00:23:17,111 if every week, we made a turkey and brought it to a neighbor. 413 00:23:17,135 --> 00:23:19,489 So, should we just, uh, leave it here, or should we. 414 00:23:19,513 --> 00:23:22,283 - Are you... - Yes! That's right. CBS, nine seasons. 415 00:23:22,307 --> 00:23:24,786 Wow. Oh, 416 00:23:24,810 --> 00:23:27,413 gee... Oh! 417 00:23:27,437 --> 00:23:29,332 - Come in. 418 00:23:29,356 --> 00:23:33,378 Okay, uh, full disclosure. This is actually the first time we've done this, 419 00:23:33,402 --> 00:23:35,880 and now we know how weird it is 420 00:23:35,904 --> 00:23:37,882 that we didn't bring some yams. 421 00:23:37,906 --> 00:23:39,634 That's true. 422 00:23:39,658 --> 00:23:41,743 You're the guy doing the podcast. 423 00:23:42,786 --> 00:23:44,472 Look, 424 00:23:44,496 --> 00:23:46,999 I-I'm sorry how I was with your dog. 425 00:23:47,583 --> 00:23:49,084 I was having a rough day. 426 00:23:49,835 --> 00:23:50,938 Yeah. 427 00:23:50,962 --> 00:23:53,690 Uh, we heard you knew Tim Kono. 428 00:23:53,714 --> 00:23:55,883 Was he a... good guy? 429 00:23:56,675 --> 00:23:58,677 I didn't know him personally. 430 00:23:59,428 --> 00:24:00,929 He used to work for me. 431 00:24:01,513 --> 00:24:02,713 I fired him. 432 00:24:03,432 --> 00:24:04,909 You fired him? 433 00:24:04,933 --> 00:24:06,744 Why did you do that, Sting? 434 00:24:06,768 --> 00:24:08,145 That's personal. 435 00:24:09,479 --> 00:24:10,679 Sting. 436 00:24:13,567 --> 00:24:17,088 I know that you know that I know what it's like to be famous. 437 00:24:17,112 --> 00:24:19,907 Strangers think they have a right to know our business. 438 00:24:20,824 --> 00:24:22,844 But they never know the real us, 439 00:24:22,868 --> 00:24:24,679 and it's isolating. 440 00:24:24,703 --> 00:24:26,556 It can make us 441 00:24:26,580 --> 00:24:28,373 act poorly. 442 00:24:33,378 --> 00:24:35,714 I feel I'm too close to Sting. 443 00:24:36,256 --> 00:24:38,693 So, on top of that, Sting, 444 00:24:38,717 --> 00:24:41,529 this punk Tim Kono 445 00:24:41,553 --> 00:24:44,449 lost all your money. MABEL: It might just make you 446 00:24:44,473 --> 00:24:46,993 snap. You know, might 447 00:24:47,017 --> 00:24:49,204 make you even murderous. 448 00:24:49,228 --> 00:24:51,623 What are you all getting at? 449 00:24:51,647 --> 00:24:54,250 You think Tim's death is my fault. 450 00:24:55,901 --> 00:24:57,101 Well, you're right. 451 00:24:59,529 --> 00:25:00,840 I killed him. 452 00:25:00,864 --> 00:25:02,884 No, Anita, 453 00:25:02,908 --> 00:25:04,576 I need to release this. 454 00:25:06,286 --> 00:25:09,098 I've been so full of rage lately... 455 00:25:09,122 --> 00:25:12,060 The day before Tim's death, I-I screamed at him. 456 00:25:12,084 --> 00:25:15,939 "You fucked me over! You're fired! You should kill yourself!" 457 00:25:15,963 --> 00:25:18,650 And then he did. 458 00:25:18,674 --> 00:25:21,176 And that's why you poisoned my dog! B-b... 459 00:25:22,219 --> 00:25:23,636 Wait, I'm sorry. What did you say? 460 00:25:24,930 --> 00:25:28,618 Okay, I can't believe I even have to say this, but Sting is not a murderer. 461 00:25:28,642 --> 00:25:31,895 - Or a dog poisoner. - So you think Tim was murdered? 462 00:25:32,479 --> 00:25:33,831 I know he was. 463 00:25:33,855 --> 00:25:36,817 Oh my God. What a relief! 464 00:25:37,776 --> 00:25:39,587 I-I've been racked with guilt. 465 00:25:39,611 --> 00:25:41,756 I thought he killed himself because of me. 466 00:25:41,780 --> 00:25:44,342 And... You know, th-that's why we've moved the tour up. 467 00:25:44,366 --> 00:25:47,554 That's why we're gutting this apartment, and the building is just 468 00:25:47,578 --> 00:25:50,873 seeped in, in guilt and regret. 469 00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:56,712 It's given me an idea for a song. 470 00:26:15,022 --> 00:26:17,417 I don't think it's gonna make your best-of album. 471 00:26:17,441 --> 00:26:19,443 Well... Uh, okay... 472 00:26:20,235 --> 00:26:21,921 It's hard writing songs. 473 00:26:21,945 --> 00:26:24,364 - Okay. Thank you for the turkey. - Please 474 00:26:25,032 --> 00:26:26,384 stay away from Sting. 475 00:26:26,408 --> 00:26:28,970 Fuck. Another dead end. 476 00:26:28,994 --> 00:26:31,639 - Well, I could use a drink and a dip. 477 00:26:31,663 --> 00:26:34,166 - Anyone join me? - I'm gonna go for a run. 478 00:26:35,167 --> 00:26:37,145 How about you, Charlie? 479 00:26:37,169 --> 00:26:39,397 Checkers? Chazz! 480 00:26:39,421 --> 00:26:40,940 Sure, fine. 481 00:26:40,964 --> 00:26:43,425 But I have one more mess to embrace first. 482 00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:55,246 My last relationship lasted six years. 483 00:26:55,270 --> 00:26:56,831 We met under false pretenses. 484 00:26:56,855 --> 00:27:00,752 It was at a hot springs in Iceland, on a trip my sister dragged me on. 485 00:27:00,776 --> 00:27:03,671 Now, I hate nature, I hate traveling, 486 00:27:03,695 --> 00:27:05,924 but I didn't tell my ex that. Emma. That's my ex. 487 00:27:05,948 --> 00:27:08,176 So, she thought she was getting 488 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,179 "adventurous actor guy," 489 00:27:11,203 --> 00:27:14,057 so she moved in. And she brought with her 490 00:27:14,081 --> 00:27:16,792 her 7-year-old daughter. Lucy. 491 00:27:17,209 --> 00:27:19,521 I tried to give Lucy some stability. 492 00:27:19,545 --> 00:27:21,439 You know, a-a routine, 493 00:27:21,463 --> 00:27:23,650 and I would cook her favorite omelet in the morning, 494 00:27:23,674 --> 00:27:26,361 and she loved it, and I loved it, 495 00:27:26,385 --> 00:27:29,096 but my ex... didn't. 496 00:27:29,846 --> 00:27:32,700 So, I booked a Caribbean cruise 497 00:27:32,724 --> 00:27:35,078 - for our anniversary. - That's romantic. 498 00:27:35,102 --> 00:27:36,287 Yeah, that's what she thought. 499 00:27:36,311 --> 00:27:38,039 And then I clarified 500 00:27:38,063 --> 00:27:40,274 it was actually a family fun cruise. 501 00:27:41,275 --> 00:27:43,795 So, day three, there was an island tour, 502 00:27:43,819 --> 00:27:46,381 and Lucy and I just wanted to skip it. 503 00:27:46,405 --> 00:27:49,408 But, Emma insisted that Lucy go. 504 00:27:51,034 --> 00:27:52,512 And they never came back. 505 00:27:52,536 --> 00:27:54,138 - They went missing? - No. 506 00:27:54,162 --> 00:27:56,206 They flew home from St. Croix. 507 00:27:56,790 --> 00:27:58,977 So, I stayed on the family fun cruise 508 00:27:59,001 --> 00:28:01,729 for the next five days, alone, 509 00:28:01,753 --> 00:28:03,481 except for Bugs Bunny and Porky Pig, 510 00:28:03,505 --> 00:28:07,110 who I had paid extra to be at our anniversary dinner. 511 00:28:10,596 --> 00:28:12,156 Emma thought a hard break 512 00:28:12,180 --> 00:28:14,325 would be best for Lucy, 513 00:28:14,349 --> 00:28:17,352 so I really haven't spoken to her since. 514 00:28:18,478 --> 00:28:20,981 And I've been haunted by it. 515 00:28:21,565 --> 00:28:23,609 And by Bugs and Porky. 516 00:28:25,068 --> 00:28:26,629 You know, I don't share this 517 00:28:26,653 --> 00:28:30,866 with people because I'm, frankly, embarrassed by it. 518 00:28:38,332 --> 00:28:41,603 But, I'm telling you this because... 519 00:28:41,627 --> 00:28:42,854 I like you. 520 00:28:42,878 --> 00:28:45,672 And I would like a second date. 521 00:28:46,924 --> 00:28:49,092 Woof. That was a lot. 522 00:28:49,927 --> 00:28:51,428 Woof, woof. 523 00:28:53,263 --> 00:28:54,699 Okay. 524 00:28:54,723 --> 00:28:58,143 But if anyone's wearing an animal suit, it better be you or me. 525 00:29:01,104 --> 00:29:03,482 Thank you. I will call you. 526 00:29:04,399 --> 00:29:06,002 What's more dangerous? 527 00:29:06,026 --> 00:29:08,880 Taking advantage of a second chance, 528 00:29:08,904 --> 00:29:10,906 or letting it pass you by? 529 00:30:18,891 --> 00:30:21,870 - Ah! - What happened? 530 00:30:21,894 --> 00:30:25,039 I shared. I got a second date. 531 00:30:25,063 --> 00:30:27,250 I need to sleep for a month. 532 00:30:27,274 --> 00:30:29,568 Ah! A pillow... 533 00:30:30,694 --> 00:30:33,923 - No, no, no, no. This is good. - This is progress. Tell me everything. 534 00:30:33,947 --> 00:30:36,176 Can't we just have a drink and sit quietly? 535 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,161 I've had enough big reveals for today. 536 00:30:40,204 --> 00:30:41,389 Hey, Dad. 537 00:30:41,413 --> 00:30:43,433 Looks like Winnie got everything out of her system. 538 00:30:43,457 --> 00:30:46,060 Willie! Charles, this is my son Will. 539 00:30:46,084 --> 00:30:48,354 Will, this is Charles-Haden Savage. 540 00:30:48,378 --> 00:30:50,356 - Nice to meet you... Yeah, 541 00:30:50,380 --> 00:30:51,733 you, too. Uh, 542 00:30:51,757 --> 00:30:53,818 so Dad, I listened to your podcast. 543 00:30:53,842 --> 00:30:55,904 You didn't tell me you were doing it with Mabel Mora. 544 00:30:55,928 --> 00:30:57,655 Why, you know her? 545 00:30:57,679 --> 00:30:59,782 She used to stay here during school breaks. 546 00:30:59,806 --> 00:31:02,556 She hung out with this group of kids, and one of them was Tim Kono. 547 00:31:04,645 --> 00:31:07,290 - Wait, what? - She knew Tim Kono? 548 00:31:07,314 --> 00:31:08,514 She 100% knew him. 549 00:31:09,107 --> 00:31:11,711 - What does that mean? - Why would she not tell us that? 550 00:31:11,735 --> 00:31:13,963 I mean, maybe because she thinks it looks suspicious. 551 00:31:13,987 --> 00:31:16,966 Especially since the last time she was here, one of the other friends died. 552 00:31:16,990 --> 00:31:18,676 She got pushed off the roof. 553 00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:20,345 What? 554 00:31:20,369 --> 00:31:21,888 That girl is bad news. 555 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,376 Can you just say all that one more time? 556 00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:45,703 "What happens when your second chance 557 00:31:45,727 --> 00:31:48,998 becomes your last shot?" 558 00:31:49,022 --> 00:31:51,167 Is a line of dialogue from Brazzos, 559 00:31:51,191 --> 00:31:53,169 episode 713, 560 00:31:53,193 --> 00:31:56,339 which prophecized what would happen 15 years later 561 00:31:56,363 --> 00:31:58,091 when a fake detective 562 00:31:58,115 --> 00:32:00,552 decided to become a real one. 563 00:32:00,576 --> 00:32:03,763 When he and his true crime fan buddies 564 00:32:03,787 --> 00:32:06,307 took a second chance 565 00:32:06,331 --> 00:32:10,186 and became the subject of our next investigation. 566 00:32:10,210 --> 00:32:14,023 Stay tuned for Only Murderers In The Building, 567 00:32:14,047 --> 00:32:17,068 coming this fall. Until then, 568 00:32:17,092 --> 00:32:19,362 I'm Cinda Canning. 569 00:32:19,386 --> 00:32:22,991 And remember, if you need a domain, website, or online store, 570 00:32:23,015 --> 00:32:24,617 make it with Squarespace!